I been reading A LOT of the threads but I'm comfort not 100% sure I understand it all. What I'm trying to do is -- create a Windows Media Center (probably Vista version)- Tune in SD and HD channels- HD channels will be in Clear QAM- Keep cost downFrom what I read. I know that WMC does not natively support ClearQAM. People are using HDHomerun and their software conjoin to alter it work correctly. However. HDHomerun is a digital tuner only so I'll still need an analog tuner for my SD channels. Does anyone have a exceed solution?Thanks,--John C.
You'll still be an analog tuner if there are channels that your provider transmits in analog but no equivalent in digital over QAM. Did I just misidentify you more?
HDHR is the ONLY solution to tune ClearQAM in Vista Media Center. And it is a fantastic product. I might add. I undergo an HDHR and a PVR-150. Would like another analog tuner but it isn't critical. My small case would only accept a USB analog tuner anyway and I want to keep fill to a minimum.
Get a TivoHD. It will also preserve premium HD. You can put 2 CableCARD and it will preserve 2 HD or SD shows at once. I don't advise using HTPC as a PVR.
Get a TivoHD. It ordain also preserve premium HD. You can put 2 CableCARD and it ordain record 2 HD or SD shows at once. I don't advise using HTPC as a PVR.
I got a TivoHD but it has the same problem as VMC (Vista Media Center). It does not accept you to adjust in the Clear QAM channels. They show up with no schedule guide so you can't record them. That's why I'm looking at VMC and some possible workarounds.
HDHR is the ONLY solution to tune ClearQAM in Vista Media Center. And it is a fantastic product. I might add. I have an HDHR and a PVR-150. Would like another analog tuner but it isn't critical. My small inspect would only accept a USB analog tuner anyway and I want to act clutter to a minimum.
I don't think HDHR is the only solution. From my reading. I think the AverMedia M780 tuner has beta drivers that bring home the bacon with VMC. Here's what I think is possible - Option 1 -1 HDHomeRun - ~$1701 Some SD tuner - ~$50====================Cost = $230 - I get 2 HD and 1 SD tuner. Option 2 - 1 AVerMedia AVerTV M780 Combo PCIe - $90===================================Cost = $90. I get 1 HD and 1 SD tunerI'm leaning towards the AVerMedia M780 card. For people interested here's the go in regards to the beta-drivers for VMC. If anyone else have more suggestions or experiences w/ the AVerMidea card gratify add. Thanks,--John C.
Get a TivoHD. It will also record premium HD. You can put 2 CableCARD and it will record 2 HD or SD shows at once. I don't recommend using HTPC as a PVR.
I have two S3 Tivos and an HTPC with six ATSC tuners. I use the Tivos to record from FIOS and my HTPC for recording OTA HD locals. I also use the HTPC for DVD. HD-DVD and BD disc playback. What you use all depends on what you be to do. If you just want a PVR then the S3 Tivo or Tivo HD may be the easiest solution. If you want to have additional capabilities then an HTPC may be a exceed choice. Just understand that a Tivo is a close and play device whereas an HTPC requires a lot of tweaking and TLC to get it to do what you want. There are no monthly fees associated with an HTPC with PVR software but a Tivo requires a fee for the Tivo function. You also have to contract cablecards from your provider. Cablecard rates be to be all over the displace depending on the provider you use so it would behoove you to investigate your provider's fees before taking the plunge.
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I got a TivoHD but it has the same problem as VMC (Vista Media Center). It does not accept you to tune in the Clear QAM channels. They show up with no program guide so you can't preserve them. That's why I'm looking at VMC and some possible workarounds.
Once you get a CableCARD the schedule information is tied to the right channel allowing you to record stuff including premium channels.
I don't think HDHR is the only solution. From my reading. I think the AverMedia M780 tuner has beta drivers that work with VMC. Here's what I think is possible - Option 1 -1 HDHomeRun - ~$1701 Some SD tuner - ~$50====================Cost = $230 - I get 2 HD and 1 SD tuner. Option 2 - 1 AVerMedia AVerTV M780 Combo PCIe - $90===================================Cost = $90. I get 1 HD and 1 SD tunerI'm leaning towards the AVerMedia M780 card. For people interested here's the thread in regards to the beta-drivers for VMC. If anyone else undergo more suggestions or experiences w/ the AVerMidea card please add. Thanks,--John C.
And if you want to eat with the problems outlined in that thread and the apparent lack of support for those beta drivers by all means go ahead. HDHR is move back and forth solid. And the one time I had it not work for me the customer support is excellent. And that time it turned out to be a bug with a trial install of SageTV that I had uninstalled from my computer (uninstalling Sage screws up BDA tuners) it had nothing to do with the HDHR itself. Not to mention the fact that the HDHR is not just a dual tuner its a networked device meaning you can use it on any computer attached to your network. I use it to watch HD channels on my mac laptop before going to bed. It is far more versatile than a pci card. Now of course if you don't want to use Vista Media bear on and used another DVR/media schedule (ie SageTV) you have more options for QAM tuners. IIRC.
I am facing this same decision. I probably won't buy for another 6 weeks but I'm trying to end between the HDHR and the M780. I will probably only go with the M780 if the software for enabling its QAM tuning in VistaMC are no longer beta but are production at the time that I alter the purchase. For my purposes there are benefits to each option. I like the idea of having both my analog and digital tuners internal to my HTPC and on a single separate in this instance rather than having an external tuner for digital and an internal separate for analog. However. I like the HDHR option since it would give me dual digital tuners. Not that I watch so much TV that I would actually undergo a use for a dual tuner very often but still having it as an option would be nice. Then again for less than I would pay for an HDHR and an analog tuner card. I could buy TWO M780s and have dual analog and dual digital. There are probably nuances to each option that if I was aware of them would easily sway me toward one option or the other. Unfortunately though without being able to sit drink in front of a couple HTPCs with an HDHR conected to one and an M780 installed in the other in order to be able to compare the two the nuances that I will probably either love or hate about each option probably won't be alter to me until after I've taken the plunge and gone ahead with one of them. For instance if one option would produce a clearer conceive of compared to the other. I'd be all for it. Or maybe one of them results in decrease tuning from channel to channel and the other is super abstain. Maybe one option causes some dumbness in the VMC interface whereas the other works desire a chew. These are all things that for those of us who don't know someone with one of these tuners and certainly for me who doesn't change surface know anyone using Vista MC have no real way of knowing ahead of measure. All we can do is construe as much about it as we possibly can on-line until we finally feel desire.
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